Live Poker 100 Hour Sample?
- 0.1 How many hours is a good sample size live poker?
- 0.2 What is a good win rate in live poker?
- 0.3 What is a good BB 100 in poker?
- 1 Can you make a living playing live poker?
- 2 What is the 7 2 rule in poker?
- 3 What is the easiest poker game to win?
How many hours is a good sample size live poker?
Uncertainty with Longterm Results – Beyond individual strategic decisions, our whole winrate is always going to fall into the category of “very uncertain”. I’ve seen estimates of a significant sample of live play ranging from 2000-10,000 hours. Even on the low-end, playing 40 hrs a week, we won’t reach a meaningful sample until a year.
- That’s five years if you believe the people advocating 10,000 hours.
- Now that sample isn’t going to be very consistent either.
- Do you play at the same place in the same games against the same people 2000 hours a year? If you can do that and make a good living, power to you.
- For me, living in New York City, my array of online play, home games, and trips to varying casinos across the country adds a lot of noise to my results.
The only reason I’m sure I’m a winning player is that I can identify spots where I believe my opponents are making mathematical mistakes that I can demonstrate on pencil and paper – but more likely a computer. The truth is, you might not be a winner in your game.
How many poker players have we seen assume they are a winner based on past results and consequently dump it all to the people who put in the work? Just winning isn’t enough. You need to know why you are winning. And if you are losing, you need to know why you won’t be losing in the long run if you maintain your strategy.
Even if you have been a winner in your game, there is no reason you should count on your winrate being the same moving forward. The games could improve, get much worse, or end altogether. The point is, be prepared and be realistic. This isn’t to say you aren’t a great poker player.
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How many hours of live poker for winrate?
The actual amount of hours needed for a true illustration of a live poker player’s win rate is up for debate. To many, 500 hours is the figure where numbers begin to stabilize.100 or 200 hours might seem like a lot of play, and it certainly is, but this only amounts to 3,000-6,000 hands in most live games.
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How many hands an hour live poker?
Speed of Play – A typical live, full ring poker game will deal around 25-30 hands per hour, Short-term variance takes a lot longer to overcome. Cash game players will have to play many more hours of live poker, compared to its online counterpart, in order to realize their true win rate.
- Live tournament players might not ever be able to play enough tournaments to outrun the high-variance nature of multi-table tournaments (MTTs).
- Online poker gets to the long run far more quickly.
- A typical full-ring online poker game will yield 60-80 hands per hour, and for a six-max game some sites can deal upwards of 90 hands per hour,
Those numbers are just for a single table. Online poker allows for multi-tabling, and an adept multi-tabling player can reach hundreds of hands per hour and thousands per day. For sites that offer fast-fold poker, like PokerStars Zoom and partypoker fastforward, these hand per hour numbers go even higher.
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What is a good win rate in live poker?
Knowing what a good poker win rate is, both live and online, is important to know in order to maximize your hourly rate and exercise optimal bankroll management practices. In this article, I will cover what type of win rate can be expected across a variety of stakes and games including the various online and live formats.
- We will also take a look at how multi-tabling influences win rates with the goal of helping you achieve your highest hourly rate possible.
- So what is a good win rate in poker? A typical good win rate will range anywhere from 1bb/100 up to 10bb/100 or higher.
- However, defining a good specific personal win rate is subjective and therefore impossible to answer definitively.
Satisfactory win rates will vary from game to game and even day-to-day, based on the toughness of the competition. That is why finding your own best personal hourly rate is much more important than trying to maximize your win rate. For online players, playing multiple tables will lower a win rate but likely increase the hourly rate expected.
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What is a good BB 100 in poker?
1-4bb/100 is a good, solid win rate.5-9bb/100 is an exceptional win rate.10+bb/100 is absolutely crushing the game.
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Is 10000 a good sample size?
A good maximum sample size is usually 10% as long as it does not exceed 1000 – A good maximum sample size is usually around 10% of the population, as long as this does not exceed 1000. For example, in a population of 5000, 10% would be 500. In a population of 200,000, 10% would be 20,000.
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What is a good sample size for poker?
What is a Good Sample Size in Poker? – This is an incredibly difficult question to answer because there are so many different factors to consider. These factors include whether you are playing cash games or tournaments, live or online, deep stack or short stack, heads up or full ring, and so on.
You should never be reading into anything below a sample size of 10k hands, At around 10k hands, your win rate will typically be true within ±8bb. Although this is better than nothing, it is still a huge margin of error. The next point of consideration is 30k hands, At 30k hands, your win rate is likely within ±6bb of your true win rate. Generally, 30k hands are the minimum sample size that most players will use to even begin to consider whether or not you are a winning player. At 100k hands, your win rate is likely within ±4bb of your true win rate. This is often the number of hands you will hear online players say you need to obtain before you can actually determine your true win rate. For good measure, we have previously mentioned that to determine your win rate, you should aim to have a least 250k hands. At 250k hands, you are most likely to be within ±2bb of your true win rate.
In terms of HUD stats, the answer is more complicated. Some poker players will attempt to make very basic conclusions on opponents’ leaks at around 50 hands. These will be incredibly basic insights, however, based on similarities to other players within the population.
- Ideally, in most cases, you should have at least 200 hands before making any decisions about an opponent’s leaks.
- However, this again depends on the context.
- For example, 200 hands on a cash game player is far more meaningful than an MTT player who has to deal with constantly increasing blind levels.
- Overall, it is just simply impossible to pinpoint any good minimum sample size in terms of HUD stats for all game types.
Each game is unique and requires it’s own considerations when determining a good minimum sample size.
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Can you make a living playing live poker?
That’s one of the most common questions that aspiring poker players ask themselves and their poker friends. What’s the real answer? Yes, you definitely can make a considerable amount of money and even make a living playing poker. It won’t be easy, though, especially if we’re talking about online poker.
We have to be straightforward. Times when pretty much any decent player could win money in online poker games are long gone. The poker landscape has changed: the markets have been divided, games got tougher, and the average player got better. However, despite all these seemingly bad circumstances, there are still thousands of players playing online poker for a living and ever more who dream of playing poker professionally.
How do the lucky few succeed?
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Is live poker still profitable?
Poker is Still Very Popular (And Profitable) Today – But many people under-estimate just how big the industry still is. We don’t need poker to be on ESPN every night or to have every celebrity playing it in order to have lots of good games to play in.
Poker is a game that many people especially from Western countries like the US, Canada, England, Germany, France, Australia etc. simply love to play. It is part of our heritage and culture in many ways. Poker has also really caught on in places like Russia, Poland, Hungary and Brazil in recent years. And many might be surprised to know that the game is also gaining significant interest in Asia as well in places like Japan, Korea, Thailand and Vietnam.
In fact here is a breakdown of the top 10 traffic sources to my website in the past year. And note that at least a few of these countries would typically be classified as non-English speaking (yet my website is English only). So this continued growth (and now worldwide interest in the game) ensures that there will always be a steady supply of new blood coming in and with that bad poker players as well. What does this mean in terms of actual numbers though. How profitable is poker still today? Well as I discussed recently, it is still possible for a good poker player who plays regularly to make hundreds or even thousands of dollars a month in the micro stakes games online today.
Beating the mid stakes or high stakes games online these days is certainly no walk in the park. But it is possible over time for somebody with a strong work ethic who is committed to continually improving their game. We hear stories every single year of some new phenom climbing up the stakes and making 6 or 7 figures.
And it is usually no fluke that they got there. In fact, in my latest video I talk about how to make $5000 a month playing poker.
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What is the 7 2 rule in poker?
The 7-2 Game A few nights ago I had the chance to play at friend’s home game where we implemented the 7-2 game. For those of your not familiar, this is where anytime a player wins with 7-2, every other player at the table has to give them some amount of money.
- In our case, we were playing a deep-stacked 1/2 game with six players and when someone won with 7-2, they would get $10 (5 BB) from every other player.25 BB total is not a bad score, especially when you’re able to take it down preflop.
- Some people hate the game, others love it, and I certainly fall into the later category.
Anything to drum up action and encourage bluffing is a win in my book. At first, it no one was getting dealt 7-2. After at least four orbits the hand was not shown down and everyone said they hadn’t seen the had once. This makes sense though- of the 1326 possible starting hand combos in NLHE, 7-2 comprises only 16 of them, for a little over 1% of total possible hands.
After about an hour though of no one getting the hand, seemingly all at once, a very high proportion were getting dealt, and this continued for the rest of the night. There were at least 4x as many 7-2 combos dealt as what one would expect based on the odds (I certainly wasn’t complaining about that!).
While the game is normally fun, somewhat loose, with a good amount of aggression, the 7-2 game transformed the table to have a preflop aggression frequency higher than the toughest online 6max games. It seemed like there was a 3bet every few hands with no one ever really choosing to back down with 7-2.
On top of the standard 3 and 4bet bluffs with 7-2, there were also a few notable pots where 7-2 triple barreled on a scary board and got called down on all three streets and where a player opted to flat with 7-2 preflop and make a series of bluffs postflop to take it down. For the home game that this was played in, I think the 7-2 game makes a lot of sense.
Everyone could afford to play these stakes so although the hyped up aggression left some people frustrated by the end of the night, it wasn’t going to make anyone not come back. The only scenario in which I could see the 7-2 game not making sense for one’s home game is if the stakes being played are meaningful to some, and the thought of losing 3 buyins or more in a friendly game is something that would discourage players from coming back (although in this type of case, my recommendation would be to lower the stakes, up the stack depth, and bring on the preflop aggression!).
- What I’m excited to further explore is not the merits of whether or not to play the 7-2 game sometimes – unless you hate action and people bluffing more, it’s worth at least trying for an hour or two.
- I want to look at how this game effects decisions so if you find yourself in a game where people are playing the 7-2 game, you know how to adjust.
I think it’s fairly obvious for those that have played the 7-2 game, most people over-adjust and bluff too much when holding 7-2. I’m going to look at how the reward of winning a hand wth 7-2 impacts one’s EV and your frequencies. For the sake of simplicity, let’s work with the assumption that the reward for winning with 7-2 is 30 BB – 5 BB at a 7 handed home game.
- Let’s say you normally open 3 BB to win 1.5 BB.
- Now with the 7-2 game in play the reward is 31.5 BB.
- So it’s clear even in early position 7-2 is a slam-dunk open.
- Now what about a 3bet? Let’s say you standardly 3bet to 10 BB over a 3 BB open.
- So now instead of risking 10 BB to win 4.5 BB, you’re risking 10 to win 34.5 BB.
At first glance it might seem like we should be 3betting 100% of the time with 7-2. I think in most games this is probably correct, but if you’re in a really loose game where people rarely fold to 3bets, or up against a particularly sticky player, it might be best to just fold against those type of players.
- Because once called preflop, 7-2 has such poor equity against a calling range so without much fold equity postflop, best to just fold pre.
- Note in these games I would have a tiny or non-existent 3bet bluffing range without the 7-2 game.
- Most players will have a frequency that they fold to 3bets, even in a loose, aggressive, and deep stacked game, so most of the time you should replace some of your 3bet bluffs with 7-2.
The key when adjusting for this game is not completely throw off your relative frequencies – if you normally 3bet in late position with 9s+ AQ+ for value and A2s-A5s as a bluff, don’t just add 7-2 to your 3betting range unless these players won’t adjust to the 7-2 game – almost no one doesn’t adjust when playing the 7-2 game, if anything, most players in my experience over-adjust and always “put you on 7-2”.
- So against most players you should also add at least the proportionate amount of value combos to keep your ratio of value hands to bluffs the same, if not more value hands due to overadjustment.
- Now on to 4bet bluffing.
- If a standard 4bet to a 10 BB 3bet is 35 BB, you’re normally risking 35 BB to win 11.5 BB, and with the 7-2 game to win 41.5 BB.
As you can see, after more preflop betting occurs, you’re starting to risk more to win relatively less. The same logic for when to 3bet bluff with 7-2 applies to 4betting, although because of the price we’re laying ourselves, we need to be a little more conservative than with 3betting.
Against a relatively balanced player, we should be 4bet bluffing all combos of 7-2. But against someone who only 3bets very good hands or is looking to gamble with a merged value range, best to fold all combos of 7-2 preflop. I imagine there aren’t many opponents where it is correct to do anything but fold all combos or 4bet all combos.
It would take a particular opponent who is somewhat balanced in their 3betting range but a little too loose to warrant a mixed strategy with 7-2. Postflop Barreling frequencies with 7-2 postflop are largely dependent on the size of the pot after the preflop betting.
- In a similar fashion to preflop, it’s likely correct to cbet 100% in a single-raised pot heads up- if our cbet sizing is on average 1/2 pot, then one is risking 3.25 BB to win 37.5 BB.
- With multiple players in the pot, it still is likely correct to cbet 100% with 7-2 because of the price.
- Even if the 3.25 BB cbet only gets through 15% of the time in a 4way pot, it’s still a really profitable cbet because you’re risking 3.25 BB to win 43.5 BB (only needs to work about 7.5% of the time to break even).
If you’re at a table where it’s so loose that cbets don’t go through on the flop when playing the 7-2 game because everyone puts you on it, don’t ever bluff postflop with 7-2 and please let me know if you ever need another player for the game. In a 3bet pot, the same logic largely applies.
In a heads up pot when cbetting the flop you’re risking 10 BB to win 51.5 BB, so you only need the bet to work 18% of the time as opposed to the normal 33% without the 7-2 bonus. Note how much more of an attractive proposition cbetting is in a single-raised versus heads up pot: cbets only need to work 8.5% of the time versus 18% of the time.
And for 4bet pots this then changes to 26.5% which while is better than the 33% that it would need to work without the 7-2 game, won’t change your range as significantly. In a 4bet pot you should probably give up with some combos of 7-2 and replace your worst normal bluffing candidates with 7-2.
Don’t be the guy that makes the hero triple barrel – on each street the extra 30 BB becomes much less of a factor. If it’s a 3bet pot heads up pot with 200 BB stacks to start the hand, and you get to the river with 100 BB in the pot and 150 BB behind. You decide to overbet the river and risk 150 BB to win 100 + 30 BB because goddamnit if you’ll lose with 7-2.
Normally you would need this bluff to work 60%. But with the extra 30 BB, this bet still needs to work 53.5% of the time, not that significant of a difference. If you decide it makes sense to have an overbetting range on a particular river card, it will likely make sense to include at least a combo or two of 7-2, just not all 12 combos.
- Equity when called + fold equity – bet when called and miss + bounty equity = 0
- Equity is when called = x
- % Opponent folds = y
- 7-2 Bounty = z
- So let’s say I bet 50 into 100 on a flop in a heads up pot.
- So the base equation before knowing our exact hands, equities, and bounty is the following knowing the size of the bet:
- x(1-y)*200 + y*100 – 50*(1-x)(1-y) + z = 0
- The flop is Kc6h9c.
- Which is a better c-bet bluffing candidate, 72o or J10c?
Let’s approximate that 7-2 has about 5% equity against a continuing range and J10c has 35% equity. Your opponent will fold 33%, 8% more than optimal. In the home game I played, the 7-2 bounty was 50.7-2,05(1-.33)*200 +,33*100 – 50*(1-.05)(1-.33) + 50 = 57.875 J10c,35(1-.33)*200 +,33*100 – 50*(1-.35)(1-.33) + 0 = 58.125
- So in this case, we’d expect to profit about $7 (answer of equation – the bet) with our best bluffing candidate as well as 72o betting half pot in a medium sized pot for the stake, without much theoretical difference between the two hands.
- Now let’s look at what happens if this flop was bet called and a blank turn comes out.
Which is a better bluffing candidate now for betting 140 into 200? Let’s adjust the base equation for this bet and pot size, how often your opponent folds (33%, a few % less than optimally against this bet size), and updated equities – 0% for 7-2 and 18% for J10c.
x(1-y)*480 + y*200 – 140*(1-x)(1-y) + z = 0 7-2 0(1-.33)*480 +,33*200 – 140*(1-0)(1-.33) + 50 = 117 J10c,18(1-.33)*480 +,33*200 – 140*(1-.18)(1-.33) + 0 = 201.796 As you can see, as the pot gets bigger, 7-2 becomes significantly worse (EV of -$23 in this example) to bluff compared to good draws (one would expect to profit $61 semibluffing J10c here).
Now a note on river play – if you do get to the river with 7-2, then it becomes your best bluff because none of your bluffs have equity but you get the extra bounty with 7-2. This doesn’t necessarily mean that you should always bluff with all combos of 7-2 you get to the river with, but you should defintely bluff all 7-2 combos before adding other bluffs.
- Conclusion The big takeaway is to still be quite aggressive with 7-2 – the extra 30 BB in most circumstances makes it an excellent bluffing candidate.
- This becomes less and less true on later streets, and in bloated pots.
- Just remember to not get too crazy and have it make your ratio of value bets to bluffs go out of whack – with the addition of 7-2 to a bluffing range, remember to value bet extra thinly.
: The 7-2 Game
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What is the 4 2 rule in poker?
The 4-2 Rule as mentioned previously – The 4-2 Rule is a way to turn the number of drawing outs you have into your odds of hitting them. It’s times 4 on the flop to hit on the turn or river, and times 2 on the turn to hit your draw on the river. Example: a flopped flush draw is 9 outs.
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Why do poker players run it 3 times?
Understanding Run It Three Times Run It Three Times allows players to have the remaining board cards dealt three times when two players are playing a hand and both are all-in. The amount in the pot is also split into three separate amounts to be paid out according to the results of the three different boards. Run the board three times to lower your risk when you are All-in. Run It Three Times is only possible when both players accept. There is no extra rake for Run It Three Times. Did this answer your question? Thanks for the feedback There was a problem submitting your feedback. Please try again later. Last updated on March 16, 2022 : Understanding Run It Three Times
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What is the easiest poker game to win?
Thanks to televised events like the World Series of Poker, the game of poker has risen in popularity in recent years. Players are attracted to the game’s combination of psychology, probability and, of course, luck in trying to put together winning hands time after time.
If you visit a casino, you’ll notice that there are multiple different types of poker, each with slight rule variations that change the complexity and the strategy of each game. Here are five common types of poker you’re likely to see played at a casino,1. Five Card Draw Considered one of the simplest forms of poker, five card draw starts with each player receiving five cards.
After the initial deal, players can choose up to three cards to trade in exchange for new cards. The player with the best five-card combination wins.2. Texas Hold ’em By far the most popular version of poker played in America, Texas Hold ’em is the version of poker played in the World Series of Poker.
The game starts with each player receiving two cards to keep to themselves, and then progresses as five community cards are laid onto the table.1 “Players bet a total of four times during the game: after each player receives to cards, then three more times as the community cards are laid on the table,” says a spokesperson for The Casino at Dania Beach,
“Players use a combination of their own two cards and the five community cards to put together the best five-card combination possible, with the best overall combination winning the hand—and the chips.” 3. Omaha Hold ’em This variant of poker looks a lot like Texas Hold ’em, with two importance differences.
- First, players are dealt four cards instead of two at the start of the hand.
- And the five community cards are all turned over at the same time, instead of being spread out over three rounds.
- However, players can only use two of their own cards when putting together the best five-card combination.4.
- Seven Card Stud In this game, each player is dealt seven cards.
Three are face down, and four are face up and visible to the entire table. Players use those seven cards to create the best five-card hand possible. “Compared to a game like five card draw, seven card stud can feature more dangerous hands since players have seven cards to choose from, instead of five,” says a spokesperson for The Casino at Dania Beach, 5. Video Poker If you ask a poker enthusiast, video poker is not the same as a regular poker game. With this machine-based version, there are no other players—you’re only playing against the computer to put together the best hand possible. It’s not the same as the real thing, but if you find yourself overwhelmed at the live poker tables, it might be worth taking a break for the relatively lower-stakes, lower-stress experience offered by a video poker machine.
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