Why Is It Called The River In Poker?

Ok, I found myself. Originally the flop was called the turn and the turn was simply known as 4th street. Then the term flop came from the sound the dealer makes when he “flops” the first three cards. As this became colloquial, 4th street became known as the “turn”.

While the river came from the Mississippi gambling riverboats on which poker was played in the 1800’s. Sometimes cheaters would deal themselves an extra card after the hand was supposed to be complete. T hat would improve their own hand. If caught, they would often be thrown overboard, into the river. Another version of river is one of the games on riverboats was called “up the river down the river”.

Final card became known as the river. Or it came from “short stud”. The seventh card was dealt facedown gave rise to its nickname, Down-the-River. Down-the-River was shortened to “the river”. If someone is interested. But it’s all speculations. Oh, did you know that poker started out as a game called poque (French) and that Southern US’ers on the riverboats were pronouncing it poh kuh? Another speculation.
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What does turn and river mean in poker?

In the game of poker, it is crucial to know about the turn river flop. The opening or throwing down the starting hand is termed as the poker flop, after the flop, the turn is the fourth community card that is exposed, and the final card that has the capability to make or break the game is called a river in poker.
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Do you bet before or after the river?

Can you bet after the river card is dealt? – Poker allows betting on every street. Players can bet before the flop, after the flop, after the turn, and then again after the river. A player can check, bet, call, raise, or reraise after seeing the river.
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Why do they run the river twice in poker?

Running it twice is a popular option amongst professional players because it helps to reduce variance (without affecting the profitability of the situation). To reduce variance even further players sometimes elect to run the board three or even four times, with each run being worth an equal segment of the pot.
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What is a whale in poker?

A high roller, also referred to as a whale or cheetah, is a gambler who consistently wagers large amounts of money. High rollers often receive lavish ” comps ” from casinos to lure them onto the gambling floors, such as free private jet transfers, limousine use and use of the casinos’ best suites,

Casinos may also extend credit to a player to continue betting, offer rebates on betting turnover or losses, and salaries of employees may also contain incentive arrangements to bring in high rollers. The definition of a high roller varies. At Crown Casino in Australia, for example, it involves bringing between AUD$ 50,000 and $75,000 to the table.

High roller players often have very high table limits allowing the high roller exclusive use. Casinos compete on bet limits. In Australia limits of AUD$300,000 are common, in Las Vegas they are between US$150,000 and $300,000, and in Macau they are up to US$500,000.

Only richer casinos can accommodate high-stakes gambling due to the volatility of results. High rollers may also be subject to exceptions from various rules and regulations; for example the high roller rooms at Crown Casino in Melbourne, Australia are the only licensed venue in the state not subject to a ban on smoking,

High rollers are said to provide only a small fraction of casino business. John Eidsmoe, in his book Legalized Gambling: America’s Bad Bet, claims that it is actually gamblers from the lower and lower-middle classes in the United States that provide much of the gambling money.

1. The occasional wealthy ‘high roller’ does indeed exist, but he is the exception, not the standard.
2. The fact that more than 50% of Nevada’s gambling income comes from slot machines as opposed to the card tables should be an indication high rollers are not the main source of revenue.” There have been many cases around the world where high rollers have committed fraud to provide funds for gambling beyond their means, after becoming seduced by the lifestyle.

This was the case with famed gambler Terrance Watanabe who reputedly lost over $220M in Las Vegas over a 5-year period, and was ultimately sued by Caesars Entertainment for failing to pay up on markers he took out during the binge totaling $14.75M. While high rollers may not provide a significant portion of the revenues in the casino industry as a whole, they can have a major effect on the net income of casinos that cater to them.

1. There are significant costs associated with attracting the highest-stakes gamblers, so if a casino takes this risk and the high roller wins, the casino’s expenses can be extremely large.
2. Likewise, if the casino’s investment pays off and the high roller loses, the casino’s gain can far exceed its expenses for the high roller’s visit.

Related to high rollers are “low rollers”, a loosely defined term whose meaning changes with context. This can be anything from a casino regular patron who nevertheless wagers very low amounts of money – perhaps just enough to participate in casino loyalty programs and “comps” – to any average low-spending tourist.
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Why do they call it the flop?

It’s said that the term flop came into existence due to the sound the dealer makes when he ‘flops’ the first three community cards on the table. As this became colloquial, 4th street became known as the ‘turn,’ while the river is a much older term that comes from before community card poker games were even played.
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What are the odds of hitting a set by the river?

If you flop an open-ended straight draw this gives you eight outs (eight possible cards that will complete the hand), so you’ll hit your hand by the river 31.5% of the time. Just make sure you’re getting pot odds (the value of the pot versus the value of your bet) to see the next card.
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Why is 3 2 called the diaper in poker?

It’s poker lingo for a risky bluff move played in a Texas Hold ‘Em poker game. A 2-3 offsuit (cards that are not of the same suit) is called the “dirty diaper”. The opponent, thinking he is up against at least one Ace will fold and the other player who actually has a 2-3 offsuit wins automatically.
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What is the 7 2 rule in poker?

The 7-2 Game A few nights ago I had the chance to play at friend’s home game where we implemented the 7-2 game. For those of your not familiar, this is where anytime a player wins with 7-2, every other player at the table has to give them some amount of money.

In our case, we were playing a deep-stacked 1/2 game with six players and when someone won with 7-2, they would get $10 (5 BB) from every other player.25 BB total is not a bad score, especially when you’re able to take it down preflop. Some people hate the game, others love it, and I certainly fall into the later category.

Anything to drum up action and encourage bluffing is a win in my book. At first, it no one was getting dealt 7-2. After at least four orbits the hand was not shown down and everyone said they hadn’t seen the had once. This makes sense though- of the 1326 possible starting hand combos in NLHE, 7-2 comprises only 16 of them, for a little over 1% of total possible hands.

1. After about an hour though of no one getting the hand, seemingly all at once, a very high proportion were getting dealt, and this continued for the rest of the night.
2. There were at least 4x as many 7-2 combos dealt as what one would expect based on the odds (I certainly wasn’t complaining about that!).

While the game is normally fun, somewhat loose, with a good amount of aggression, the 7-2 game transformed the table to have a preflop aggression frequency higher than the toughest online 6max games. It seemed like there was a 3bet every few hands with no one ever really choosing to back down with 7-2.

• On top of the standard 3 and 4bet bluffs with 7-2, there were also a few notable pots where 7-2 triple barreled on a scary board and got called down on all three streets and where a player opted to flat with 7-2 preflop and make a series of bluffs postflop to take it down.
• For the home game that this was played in, I think the 7-2 game makes a lot of sense.

Everyone could afford to play these stakes so although the hyped up aggression left some people frustrated by the end of the night, it wasn’t going to make anyone not come back. The only scenario in which I could see the 7-2 game not making sense for one’s home game is if the stakes being played are meaningful to some, and the thought of losing 3 buyins or more in a friendly game is something that would discourage players from coming back (although in this type of case, my recommendation would be to lower the stakes, up the stack depth, and bring on the preflop aggression!).

• What I’m excited to further explore is not the merits of whether or not to play the 7-2 game sometimes – unless you hate action and people bluffing more, it’s worth at least trying for an hour or two.
• I want to look at how this game effects decisions so if you find yourself in a game where people are playing the 7-2 game, you know how to adjust.

I think it’s fairly obvious for those that have played the 7-2 game, most people over-adjust and bluff too much when holding 7-2. I’m going to look at how the reward of winning a hand wth 7-2 impacts one’s EV and your frequencies. For the sake of simplicity, let’s work with the assumption that the reward for winning with 7-2 is 30 BB – 5 BB at a 7 handed home game.

• Let’s say you normally open 3 BB to win 1.5 BB.
• Now with the 7-2 game in play the reward is 31.5 BB.
• So it’s clear even in early position 7-2 is a slam-dunk open.
• Now what about a 3bet? Let’s say you standardly 3bet to 10 BB over a 3 BB open.
• So now instead of risking 10 BB to win 4.5 BB, you’re risking 10 to win 34.5 BB.

At first glance it might seem like we should be 3betting 100% of the time with 7-2. I think in most games this is probably correct, but if you’re in a really loose game where people rarely fold to 3bets, or up against a particularly sticky player, it might be best to just fold against those type of players.

Because once called preflop, 7-2 has such poor equity against a calling range so without much fold equity postflop, best to just fold pre. Note in these games I would have a tiny or non-existent 3bet bluffing range without the 7-2 game. Most players will have a frequency that they fold to 3bets, even in a loose, aggressive, and deep stacked game, so most of the time you should replace some of your 3bet bluffs with 7-2.

The key when adjusting for this game is not completely throw off your relative frequencies – if you normally 3bet in late position with 9s+ AQ+ for value and A2s-A5s as a bluff, don’t just add 7-2 to your 3betting range unless these players won’t adjust to the 7-2 game – almost no one doesn’t adjust when playing the 7-2 game, if anything, most players in my experience over-adjust and always “put you on 7-2”.

So against most players you should also add at least the proportionate amount of value combos to keep your ratio of value hands to bluffs the same, if not more value hands due to overadjustment. Now on to 4bet bluffing. If a standard 4bet to a 10 BB 3bet is 35 BB, you’re normally risking 35 BB to win 11.5 BB, and with the 7-2 game to win 41.5 BB.

As you can see, after more preflop betting occurs, you’re starting to risk more to win relatively less. The same logic for when to 3bet bluff with 7-2 applies to 4betting, although because of the price we’re laying ourselves, we need to be a little more conservative than with 3betting.

Against a relatively balanced player, we should be 4bet bluffing all combos of 7-2. But against someone who only 3bets very good hands or is looking to gamble with a merged value range, best to fold all combos of 7-2 preflop. I imagine there aren’t many opponents where it is correct to do anything but fold all combos or 4bet all combos.

It would take a particular opponent who is somewhat balanced in their 3betting range but a little too loose to warrant a mixed strategy with 7-2. Postflop Barreling frequencies with 7-2 postflop are largely dependent on the size of the pot after the preflop betting.

In a similar fashion to preflop, it’s likely correct to cbet 100% in a single-raised pot heads up- if our cbet sizing is on average 1/2 pot, then one is risking 3.25 BB to win 37.5 BB. With multiple players in the pot, it still is likely correct to cbet 100% with 7-2 because of the price. Even if the 3.25 BB cbet only gets through 15% of the time in a 4way pot, it’s still a really profitable cbet because you’re risking 3.25 BB to win 43.5 BB (only needs to work about 7.5% of the time to break even).

If you’re at a table where it’s so loose that cbets don’t go through on the flop when playing the 7-2 game because everyone puts you on it, don’t ever bluff postflop with 7-2 and please let me know if you ever need another player for the game. In a 3bet pot, the same logic largely applies.

• In a heads up pot when cbetting the flop you’re risking 10 BB to win 51.5 BB, so you only need the bet to work 18% of the time as opposed to the normal 33% without the 7-2 bonus.
• Note how much more of an attractive proposition cbetting is in a single-raised versus heads up pot: cbets only need to work 8.5% of the time versus 18% of the time.

And for 4bet pots this then changes to 26.5% which while is better than the 33% that it would need to work without the 7-2 game, won’t change your range as significantly. In a 4bet pot you should probably give up with some combos of 7-2 and replace your worst normal bluffing candidates with 7-2.

• Don’t be the guy that makes the hero triple barrel – on each street the extra 30 BB becomes much less of a factor.
• If it’s a 3bet pot heads up pot with 200 BB stacks to start the hand, and you get to the river with 100 BB in the pot and 150 BB behind.
• You decide to overbet the river and risk 150 BB to win 100 + 30 BB because goddamnit if you’ll lose with 7-2.

Normally you would need this bluff to work 60%. But with the extra 30 BB, this bet still needs to work 53.5% of the time, not that significant of a difference. If you decide it makes sense to have an overbetting range on a particular river card, it will likely make sense to include at least a combo or two of 7-2, just not all 12 combos.

• Equity when called + fold equity – bet when called and miss + bounty equity = 0
• Equity is when called = x
• % Opponent folds = y
• 7-2 Bounty = z
• So let’s say I bet 50 into 100 on a flop in a heads up pot.
• So the base equation before knowing our exact hands, equities, and bounty is the following knowing the size of the bet:
• x(1-y)*200 + y*100 – 50*(1-x)(1-y) + z = 0
• The flop is Kc6h9c.
• Which is a better c-bet bluffing candidate, 72o or J10c?

Let’s approximate that 7-2 has about 5% equity against a continuing range and J10c has 35% equity. Your opponent will fold 33%, 8% more than optimal. In the home game I played, the 7-2 bounty was 50.7-2,05(1-.33)*200 +,33*100 – 50*(1-.05)(1-.33) + 50 = 57.875 J10c,35(1-.33)*200 +,33*100 – 50*(1-.35)(1-.33) + 0 = 58.125

1. So in this case, we’d expect to profit about $7 (answer of equation – the bet) with our best bluffing candidate as well as 72o betting half pot in a medium sized pot for the stake, without much theoretical difference between the two hands.
2. Now let’s look at what happens if this flop was bet called and a blank turn comes out.
3. Kc6h9c4s

Which is a better bluffing candidate now for betting 140 into 200? Let’s adjust the base equation for this bet and pot size, how often your opponent folds (33%, a few % less than optimally against this bet size), and updated equities – 0% for 7-2 and 18% for J10c.

x(1-y)*480 + y*200 – 140*(1-x)(1-y) + z = 0 7-2 0(1-.33)*480 +,33*200 – 140*(1-0)(1-.33) + 50 = 117 J10c,18(1-.33)*480 +,33*200 – 140*(1-.18)(1-.33) + 0 = 201.796 As you can see, as the pot gets bigger, 7-2 becomes significantly worse (EV of -$23 in this example) to bluff compared to good draws (one would expect to profit $61 semibluffing J10c here).

Now a note on river play – if you do get to the river with 7-2, then it becomes your best bluff because none of your bluffs have equity but you get the extra bounty with 7-2. This doesn’t necessarily mean that you should always bluff with all combos of 7-2 you get to the river with, but you should defintely bluff all 7-2 combos before adding other bluffs.

Conclusion The big takeaway is to still be quite aggressive with 7-2 – the extra 30 BB in most circumstances makes it an excellent bluffing candidate. This becomes less and less true on later streets, and in bloated pots. Just remember to not get too crazy and have it make your ratio of value bets to bluffs go out of whack – with the addition of 7-2 to a bluffing range, remember to value bet extra thinly.

: The 7-2 Game
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What is the 4 2 rule in poker?

The 4-2 Rule as mentioned previously – The 4-2 Rule is a way to turn the number of drawing outs you have into your odds of hitting them. It’s times 4 on the flop to hit on the turn or river, and times 2 on the turn to hit your draw on the river. Example: a flopped flush draw is 9 outs.
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What is a donkey player in poker?

A derogatory term used to refer to a weak, unskilled player.
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What is a rabbit in poker?

Texas HoldEm Poker ‘Rabbit Hunting’ is requesting the dealer to continue to roll out the cards after it is over (i.e. everyone folds except for the winner before all the cards are dealt ) to see what a player might have gotten.
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What is a dog in poker?

Dog in poker is a shortened form of the word underdog and means that we are not a favourite to win in a certain situation. It could apply to us being a dog after the chips go in during a single hand of poker or it could apply to us being a dog in an entire event such as a tournament or a specific cash game limit.
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Why is the turn called the turn?

The turn got its name because it can and will turn the tide of the hand.
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What are the first 3 cards in poker called?

Texas Hold’em – In hold’em, players receive two down cards as their personal hand (holecards), after which there is a round of betting. Three board cards are turned simultaneously (called the flop) and another round of betting occurs. The next two board cards are turned one at a time, with a round of betting after each card.

1. The board cards are community cards, and a player can use any five-card combination from among the board and personal cards.
2. A player can even use all of the board cards and no personal cards to form a hand (“play the board”).
3. A dealer button is used.
4. The usual structure is to use two blinds, but it is possible to play the game with one blind, multiple blinds, an ante, or combination of blinds plus an ante.

Rounds of Betting

Opening deal – Each player is dealt two cards face down, which are known as hole cards or pocket cards. Pocket Cards First round of betting – Starting with the player to the left of the big blind, each player can call the big blind, raise, or fold. The big blind has the option to raise an otherwise unraised pot. The flop – The dealer burns a card, and then deals three community cards face up. Second round of betting – Starting with the player to the left of the dealer button, each player can check or bet. Once a bet has been made, each player can raise, call, or fold. The turn – The dealer burns another card, and then adds a fourth card face-up to the community cards. This fourth card is known as the turn card, or fourth street. Flop The Turn Third round of betting – It follows the same format as the second round, but the size of the bets have usually doubled in limit games. The river – The dealer burns another card, and then adds a fifth and final card to the community cards. This fifth card is known as the river card, or fifth street. Flop The Turn The River Final round of betting – It follows the same format as the second and third rounds. The showdown – Using the best five-card combination of their hole cards and the community cards, the remaining players show their hands, with the bettor or last raiser showing first. The highest five-card hand wins the pot. (In case of a tie, the pot is evenly split among the winning hands.)

Other Texas Hold’em Poker Rules

These rules deal only with irregularities. See Button and Blind use for rules on that subject. If the first or second hole card dealt is exposed, a misdeal results. The dealer retrieves the card, reshuffles, and recuts the cards. If any other holecard is exposed due to a dealer error, the deal continues. The exposed card can not be kept. After completing the hand, the dealer replaces the card with the top card on the deck, and the exposed card is then used for the burncard. If more than one hole card is exposed, this is a misdeal and there must be a redeal. If the flop contains too many cards, it must be redealt. (This applies even if it is possible to know which card is the extra one.) If the flop needs to be redealt because the cards were prematurely flopped before the betting was complete, or the flop contained too many cards, the board cards are mixed with the remainder of the deck. The burn card remains on the table. After shuffling, the dealer cuts the deck and deals a new flop without burning a card. See Explanations, discussion #2, for more information on this rule. If the dealer turns the fourth card on the board before the betting round is complete, the card is taken out of play for that round, even if subsequent players elect to fold. The betting is then completed. The dealer burns and turns what would have been the fifth card in the fourth card’s place. After this round of betting, the dealer reshuffles the deck, including the card that was taken out of play, but not including the burn cards or discards. The dealer then cuts the deck and turns the final card without burning a card. If the fifth card is turned up prematurely, the deck is reshuffled and dealt in the same manner. See Explanations, discussion #2, for more information on this rule. If the dealer mistakenly deals the first player an extra card (after all players have received their starting hands), the card is returned to the deck and used for the burn card. If the dealer mistakenly deals more than one extra card, it is a misdeal. If you are playing the board, you must so declare before you throw your cards away; otherwise you relinquish all claim to the pot.

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Why do I keep losing on the river in poker?

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To be competitive on the river, you need to be a master of thinking about the situation. Joined Mar 14, 2009 Total posts 1,889 Awards 3

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Just part of the game, things run in streaks but seldom last very long. The term lasting long is relative to the number of hands one plays per hour, per day, per week and per month. Joined Oct 22, 2021 Total posts 99

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“I’d be a rich man if not for the River.” Like others have said – the River can help you or hurt you. If you find the River frequently hurting you, then you are possibly not betting at pots aggressively enough. If you give people free cards they are going to take it. Joined Jan 20, 2009 Total posts 3,827 Awards 12

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If you lose to much on the river either your hands are not strong enough or you are going to the river too often. To fix this you can tighten your range and if you are betting too small increase your bet size.
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How often should you flop a set?

Before We Go Any Further. What Are the Stacks? – Let’s imagine another hand where a player raises from middle position and now you’re on the button with Calling and set mining seems like a good idea, but there’s one other question you need to answer before doing so. What are the stacks? Look at what the raiser has behind as well as what you have, and figure out what the “effective stacks” are in this situation.

“Effective stacks” essentially refers to the smallest stack among the players involved in a hand, as that represents the most total chips in play (and at risk for that player). Say in this case the blinds are 1,000/2,000 and the preflop raiser made it 5,000 to go. You have a comfortably big stack of almost 70,000, but after raising the preflop raiser is now down to 20,000.

Is set mining with pocket fours a good strategy here? Think about it. You’ll only flop a set of fours once every eight times. But if you stack this player, you’re only going to win a relatively small pot. You’re calling a bet of 5,000 in the hopes of winning what’s in the middle (8,000) plus another 20,000.

• That’s less than six times the amount of your call.
• Calling here in the hopes of flopping a set is clearly a bad play.
• It’s about 7-to-1 against flopping a set, and even if things go perfectly for you — that is, you flop a set and stack the guy — you’re risking 5,000 to win 28,000 total.
• That means your implied pot odds (including what you can potentially win besides what is already in the pot) are 5.6-to-1 — that’s less than the odds against hitting your set.

In this case, it would be better to raise with your pocket fours (or just fold them) than to call, as set mining is not a recommended strategy when the effective stacks are so shallow. One rule of thumb to follow is to say the effective stacks must be at least 10 times the amount of the call to justify trying the set mining strategy.

• If you’re going to call a raise of 5,000 here (and try set mining), you need to have the potential to win at least 50,000 chips.
• Some even recommend the stacks be even deeper, say 12 or 15 times the amount of the call (or even more).
• Bottom line — don’t try set mining if the stacks aren’t deep enough to justify it.

Before you make that call with your small pair, look at the stacks. If you’re playing online poker, this is as easy as reading the numbers on the screen representing stack amounts. If playing live, take a second, eyeball the raiser’s stack and make a count, and don’t just call the raise if the effective stacks are too small for set mining.
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How often do pocket pairs win?

That winning percentage for 10-10 moves up to 75% for two players in the hand and 57% with three players – the 9-9 moves to 72% and 53.5%. These hands become much weaker, however, if you are re-raised before the flop. Overcards on the board then create an even bigger problem and players should proceed with caution.
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What is the turn in poker?

What is Turn in Poker? The Turn is the name for the third betting round in community card games such as Hold’em and Omaha. It is the second of the three postflop betting rounds (flop, turn, and river). Turn is also the name for the lone community card that is dealt on that betting round.
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What do you call a turn in a river?

Meander. noun : a turn or winding of a stream.
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How do you calculate odds on river and turn?

The Rule of Four and Two – A much easier way of calculating poker odds is the 4 and 2 method, which states you multiply your outs by 4 when you have both the turn and river to come – and with one card to go (i.e. turn to river) you would multiply your outs by 2 instead of 4.

1. Imagine a player goes all-in and by calling you’re guaranteed to see both the turn and river cards.
2. If you have nine outs then it’s just a case of 9 x 4 = 36.
3. It doesn’t match the exact odds given in the chart, but it’s accurate enough.
4. What about with just one card to come? Well, it’s even easier.
5. Using our flush example, nine outs would equal 18% (9 x 2).

For a straight draw, simply count the outs and multiply by two, so that’s 16% (8 x 2) – which is almost 17%. Again, it’s close enough and easy to do – you really don’t have to be a math genius.
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