Prot Paladin Tbc Best In Slot?

Other Protection Paladin Best in Slot Lists – If you are starting out as a freshly-leveled Protection Paladin, our pre-raid best in slot list is meant to give you an idea of non-raid items you can chase as a solo / pug player in preparation for raids. Do note that items from Heroic dungeons or that require Primal Nether s (which are obtained from Heroics) can be harder to get than raid items due to their daily lockout. Some Heroic dungeons are also harder than most of Karazhan, To check out our recommended Pre-Raid best in slot gear, head over to its list below.

Slot	Item	Source
Helm	Helm of Uther’s Resolve	Purchased from Yrma — Isle of Quel’Danas
Neck	The Darkener’s Grasp	Kael’thas Sunstrider — Tempest Keep
Shoulders	Spaulders of the Thalassian Defender	Purchased from Yrma — Isle of Quel’Danas
Back	Slikk’s Cloak of Placation	Justice Vendor (35 Badge of Justice )
Chest	Heroic Judicator’s Chestguard	M’uru — Sunwell Plateau
Wrists	Lightbringer Wristguards	Kalecgos / Eredar Twins — Sunwell Plateau
Hands	Lightbringer Handguards	Azgalor — Hyjal Summit
Waist	Lightbringer Waistguard	Brutallus / Eredar Twins — Sunwell Plateau
Legs	Judicator’s Legguards	Purchased from Yrma — Isle of Quel’Danas
Feet	Lightbringer Stompers	Felmyst / Eredar Twins — Sunwell Plateau
Rings	Ring of Hardened Resolve Ring of Sundered Souls	M’uru — Sunwell Plateau Morogrim Tidewalker — Serpentshrine Cavern
Trinkets	Darkmoon Card: Vengeance Hex Shrunken Head	Darkmoon Faire Hex Lord Malacrass — Zul’Aman
Weapon	Tempest of Chaos	Archimonde — Hyjal Summit
Off Hand	Sword Breaker’s Bulwark	Felmyst — Sunwell Plateau
Libram	Tome of the Lightbringer	Mother Shahraz — Black Temple

If you have further questions about gemming and enchanting these items, our Protection Paladin Enchants and Gems page below provides more information.

03 May 2022: Updated for Phase 5. 21 Mar.2022: Updated for Phase 4. 08 Jan.2022: Updated for Phase 3; separated previous Phase 2 list into a new page. 08 Aug.2021: Page added.

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Are prot Paladins good in TBC?

Introduction – Paladins are capable of filling all three roles in TBC and are competitive at each, Tank, and, Each specialization will allow you to fill a specific niche because of the plentiful buffs that no other class can offer. Protection Paladins are considerably stronger in TBC than their Classic WoW version because of added talents, class abilities like Consecration becoming baseline for all Paladin specs and the addition of a taunt.

• Prot Paladins are rarely seen as the ‘main tank’, but are more than capable of tanking raid bosses.
• The greatest strength of Protection Paladin is their ability to generate and maintain threat on multiple targets, buff the raid and apply debuffs to the mobs.
• If you would like to see where Protection Warrior tanks fall in the overall rankings among tank specs for PvE in TBC Classic, we have created a page dedicated to explaining what classes and specializations are the best of the best through multiple factors.

However, ultimately, you should not let this list dissuade you from playing what you enjoy.2.
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Is prot pally good for leveling TBC?

Paladin tanks excel at leveling through dungeon grinding, however, their low damage output makes them very inefficient for leveling by solo questing.
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How do you keep aggro as prot pally TBC?

Generating Threat and Holding Aggro – In order to hold aggro on a target, a tank must be able to generate more threat than their comrades. A paladin tank accomplishes this mainly by dealing a large amount of Holy damage while under the influence of Righteous Fury,

A protection paladin’s bread and butter threat generation tools are Consecrate and Holy Shield, with Hammer of the Righteous and Shield of Righteousness becoming available at later levels. Extra threat can be generated with Retribution Aura if the mitigation from Devotion Aura is not needed. Paladins have one actual taunt available: Hand of Reckoning,

As of Patch 5.0.4, Righteous Defense is no longer available. While paladins generate threat through use of holy spells, gearing for spell power is not to their advantage since 3.0 due to their spells now scaling with Attack Power as well as spell power.
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How much spell hit does a prot Paladin need TBC?

Secondary Stats for Protection Paladin Tank in Burning Crusade. The Spell Hit cap is 16%. However, you will always have 1% chance to miss your spells as such the Spell Hit cap unbuffed is 202 SpHit Rating. Spell Hit is a key factor in what makes Protection Paladins reliable tanks.
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Can Paladins be Uncrushable in TBC?

The Light and How to Swing It: How to tank as a Paladin | September 4, 2007 11:00 PM Before the Burning Crusade, Paladin tanks didn’t really exist. Players certainly could spec into Protection (and some did, I’m sure), but the player base as a whole wasn’t ready to even accept the possibility that a Paladin could or should tank. The gear didn’t really exist for it, the Protection tree was weak, and most seemed willing to accept their role as heal / buff bots in raids.Protection was even more laughable than Retribution is today, if you can believe it.

You think finding a group as a Retribution Paladin these days is tough? I can’t think of a single group I ran in before BC that had a Paladin tank, and I ran a lot of groups.However, that all changed with the introduction of the Burning Crusade, and the redone talent trees. With the new gear and talents introduced in Burning Crusade, not only could Paladins tank – they were good at it.

Really good. In some situations, even better than Warriors.But this isn’t about comparing the tanking classes – this is about how one goes about tanking with a Paladin.First off, there are some strengths and weaknesses to consider: paladins are very good at tanking multiple or fast hitting mobs at one time, and since they generate threat through holy damage they have an edge over other tanks against mobs with a high AC.

1. However, they have lower base health than warriors or druids, they require mana in order to use their threat generating abilities (which is in limited supply, unlike rage, which is virtually unlimited), and they have to work a bit harder to become uncrushable (more on that later).
2. Luckily, paladins get a skill called Spiritual Attunement, which gives them mana back when they are healed, and does help keep them from running out of mana during long battles.

Unfortunately, overcoming some of the other weaknesses isn’t quite as easy.

Becoming Uncrushable Compensating for Lower Health Generating Threat

By default, every attack made by a boss mob has a 15% chance of being a crushing blow. Crushing blows do 150% more damage, and can’t be mitigated by defense. The only way to remove the possibility of receiving a crushing blow is to push it off the attack table – and the only way to do that is to have a combined miss / dodge / parry / block chance of 102.4%.This seems crazy, but it is possible.

1. Warriors do have an easier time of it, because their Shield Block skill raises block chance by 75%.
2. The Paladin equivalent, Holy Shield, only boosts block chance by 30%.
3. As such, many Paladins must stack more Block Rating than Warriors.
4. Although it is possible to gain more Parry and Dodge, items with Block are far easier to obtain.If you’re looking to become Uncrushable, you need to have a combined Avoidance (Miss/Dodge/Parry/Block) of 72.4%.

This means getting at least 490 Defense (Defense increases your chance to be missed, dodge, parry or block by,04% per 1 point), and a combined dodge/parry/block rate of 50% or so. Once you’ve done that, Holy Shield will provide the last 30% block needed, and the chance of you received a crushing blow becomes slim indeed.There are a couple of ways to do this – namely, raise your health with enchants, gems, and leg armor.

In addition, the talent Ardent Defender will reduce incoming damage by 30% when your health falls below 35%. This effectively gives you around 30% more health. It has been rumored that Paladins will see a way to increase their health soon, but until that time try to make up for it as best you can.Ah, finally, the real meat and potatoes of Paladin tanking.

Although paladins generate threat through holy damage, it is far more important to focus on becoming uncrushable first, so don’t stock up on +damage gear. The best thing to do is to get a decent weapon (I recommend the, as it has good stamina, spelldamage and is relatively easy to get) and enchant it with +40 spelldamage.

Some of the gear you’ll pick up when gearing up is bound to have some +damage on it as well as tanking stats, and that’s fine.Always have Righteous Fury up when you’re tanking! Properly talented, you’ll take 6% less damage, your holy damage will generate 90% more threat, and more threat is always a good thing.

Many of the skills paladins use to tank are reactive – meaning you generate threat when you get hit. Here’s what I suggest you do when tanking:

Use Retribution Aura – this causes holy damage when you get hit. No brainer. Use Seal of Righteousness, and Judge it when you can. Again, no brainer – this causes holy damage every time you hit something. Pull with Avenger’s Shield when you can. This causes holy damage to 3 targets, and is ranged. Consecrate when appropriate. If you’ve got a lot of CC around, you may not want to use this, but it is great when tanking multiple mobs. Use Blessing of Sanctuary on yourself. This causes holy damage when you block attacks. You should be blocking a lot, so this is a great way to constantly generate threat. Use Holy Shield whenever you can. Aside from increasing your chance to block by 30%, any blocks made while Holy Shield is up do damage and generates even more threat. Take the Improved Holy Shield talent to make this even more effective.

That’s pretty much it – focus on becoming Uncrushable, get a bit of spelldamage and increase your health as much as possible. More importantly, don’t let anyone tell you that paladins can’t tank, because we certainly can! It just requires the right type of gear.
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Is it better to level Prot or Ret TBC?

Ret early on but Prot can become faster at higher levels since you can pull more while questing and live. Level as ret since you will get to 70 faster, then respec and roll through those dungeons as prot.
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Is prot Paladin squishy?

Is Prot. Pally squishy? No. In terms of raw damage taken, Protection Paladin does better than other tanks when put in similar situations.
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Can you DPS as a prot Paladin?

Can I Sim Myself? – Offensively, yes you can. SimulationCraft supports Protection Paladin DPS, and this is the recommended way to determine if an item, trait, or talent is an upgrade for your damage output. As traits are in constant flux, I would maybe not trust it fully at the moment.

Defensively, no. It is not recommended to sim tanks for defense in general. There are simply too many factors and variables that go into accurately modelling a tanking situation, and there is no single metric that will tell you “this item or trait will make you more tanky.” For example: something can reduce your overall damage taken, but not improve your ability to survive spike damage, two factors of tanking which will vary in importance depending on the encounter.

You will be much better off following the recommendations of a guide with respect to defensive gearing than you will by following sims.9.
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How much haste does a prot pally need?

What’s a good haste breakpoint – prot I put everything into damage on my tank. I know I could sim myself and will but wanted to hear any feedback of secondaries applied in practice in keys or in raid. Thus far, I’ve just stacked haste over everything and mastery over all else and the results have been pretty solid.

I want to know if there’s more I can do. Both setups typically have me at ~38% haste before other buffs, ~20-22% mastery, and around 10% vers. My crit is minimal mostly coming from the tier legs. For trinkets typically in raid I actually run both IQD and First Sigil as Venthyr since I have no access to the sylv trinket and using both during that first hollow burst just feels good.

Other trinket options include a Soleah’s and an elegy at 272 and 265 respectively. For dungeons I typically run one defensive trinket, usually Scale since Scale balances the defensive kit out well. Talents are your standard talents you’d expect to see in dungeons or raids respectively with maybe the one caveat being that I still take holy shield for defense (and some offense from 4set) for both forms of content instead of taking the more consistent redoubt for the added strength to parse better.

Should I convert some of that haste to mastery for more attack power? Anyone have any of their breakdowns they could share? I would most definitely trade haste for more mastery in your situation. Mastery gems and enchants should be enough for now. I would not sacrifice ilevel to do so (if that’s an option).

Beyond that I think your stat allocation is great! I’ve been experimenting with 22% haste in dungeons with all the free HP. I typically run 25 haste, 30 mastery, whatever vers I can get (18-20%). Glafin: Both setups typically have me at ~38% haste before other buffs, ~20-22% mastery, and around 10% vers. 1 Like Haste should be around 20%+ stopping no higher than about 25%, Mastery around 30+% (mine was 37, but with the crap set pieces I lost some of my good stats). Crit not really that important to us. Glad to help. Should check out WoWhead and Icyveins they both have a pretty good idea of stat breakdowns. I did! Also checked Bloodmallet for stat breakdowns. That’s why I made this post on seeing that. I wanted to see what other paladins actually had to say as well. Ilvl doesn’t make much of a difference for neck and rings because they give stamina instead of strength. Sims also are not that accurate for tanking unless you are just looking for dps potential.1 Like noted. In that case I may just take the crafted. It would normalize my haste better and put more in mastery Agree with haste but crit does increases parry which gives charge of grand crusader, plus some juicy heals.

• It has uses but rng not a good thing to rely upon for survivability.
• With how mastery is working, Ive been skipping verse and full mastery after ~25ish haste.
• Verse just has a low return rate, % per stat, so unless you never stand in consecration or take attacks to the back, then mastery best bang for buck.

You can have 100% sotr uptime with 0 haste and 4 piece now so it is much less important than it was.2 Likes : What’s a good haste breakpoint – prot
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What does mastery do for prot pally?

For Protection Paladins, Mastery provides block rating via Divine Bulwark. Currently for each whole point of Mastery (decimal amounts do not apply) the Paladin will receive 2.25% increased chance to block.
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Does blessing of protection remove aggro?

Tips & tricks –

People protected by Blessing of Protection can still cast spells. While this skill is effective in PvP against warriors, rogues, and hunters, they all have abilities that can hit through the shield. Those abilities include Kick, Thunderclap, Pummel, etc. Players protected by Blessing of Protection lose aggro while under its duration. Tanking paladins can use this as a last resort method of aggro management, or because of a player’s inability to perform melee actions through the shield, an effective way to reign in a melee dps class who is unable to control their own aggro. The threat reduction only lasts for the duration of the blessing however, so a tanking paladin needs to make sure they are able to generate enough threat to keep aggro when the blessing expires. The paladin ability Judgement is considered to be a physical ability and cannot be used while Blessing of Protecion is active.

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How much is 1 spell hit rating TBC?

r/burningcrusade – TBC combat rating (Haste, Hit, etc.) conversions at level 70 In September 2007 Blizzard released, which said this: Haste: Haste has been rebalanced. It has returned to the ratios from the launch of Burning Crusade. Melee attacks and spell casts will now benefit at identical rates from haste.

• That’s the last info I can find on rating scaling changes, so I think Classic TBC would probably use these conversion values that were posted by Eyonix in 2006 (before Burning Crusade launched):
• Combat Ratings conversions at level 70 (rounded to 1 decimal point):
• Weapon Skill Rating: 3.9 rating grants 1 skill point

Defense Rating: 2.4 rating grants 1 defense skill.

1. Dodge Rating: 18.9 rating grants 1% dodge
2. Parry Rating: 31.5 rating grants 1% parry
3. Block Rating: 7.9 rating grants 1% block chance
4. Hit Rating: 15.8 rating grants 1% hit chance
5. Spell Hit Rating: 12.6 rating grants 1% spell hit chance
6. Critical Strike Rating: 22.1 rating grants 1% critical strike chance
7. Spell Critical Strike Rating: 22.1 rating grants 1% spell critical strike chance
8. Haste Rating: 15.8 rating grants 1% haste
9. Spell Haste Rating: 15.8 rating grants 1% spell haste
10. Resilience Rating: 39.4 rating grants 1% less chance of being struck by any type of critical strike, and 2% less damage taken from critical strikes

There was listing the stat rating conversions 4 months after release (most likely the changes). I don’t think we’ll end up with these conversion rates since they were reverted by Patch 2.2 but I’ll list them here just in case:

• Combat Ratings conversions at level 70 (rounded to 1 decimal point):
• Weapon Skill Rating: 3.9 rating grants 1 skill point
• Defense Rating: 2.4 rating grants 1 defense skill
• Dodge Rating: 18.9 rating grants 1% dodge
• Parry Rating: 22.4 rating grants 1% parry
• Block Rating: 7.9 rating grants 1% block chance
• Hit Rating: 15.8 rating grants 1% hit chance
• Spell Hit Rating: 12.6 rating grants 1% spell hit chance
• Critical Strike Rating: 22.1 rating grants 1% critical strike chance
• Spell Critical Strike Rating: 22.1 rating grants 1% spell critical strike chance
• Haste Rating: 10.5 rating grants 1% haste
• Spell Haste Rating: 21 rating grants 1% spell haste
• Resilience Rating: 39.4 rating grants 1% less chance of being struck by any type of critical strike, and 2% less damage taken from critical strikes

: r/burningcrusade – TBC combat rating (Haste, Hit, etc.) conversions at level 70
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What blessing should prot pally use TBC?

Single Target Tanking – Paladins are also very capable boss tanks thanks largely to spiritual attunement, there are many bosses where because of the healing you will be receiving will your Mana pool will be nearly unlimited. Again it is important to note that the balance you establish between threat and survivability gearing wise is largely subjective and there is rarely an exact ‘correct’ choice, your gearing set up for tanking bosses may be drastically different than what you use when AoE tanking.

Seal of the Crusader Seal of the Crusader is only worth using to maintain the Judgement of the Crusader debuff up on the mob, if you are playing with a Ret paladin you will not have to worry about keeping this debuff up but if you do not have one you need to make sure to keep this debuff up as it is a massive spell damage/threat increase. Seal of Righteousness is the seal you will most often be using when tanking bosses, the flat damage increase that scales well with your gear makes this seal the largest threat per second increase both auto-attacking and judging. Consecration is another large source of threat, making sure you are positioned in a way that you can ensure the mob you are tanking will be inside the ground effect for its entire duration will greatly increase your threat. Judgement is a powerful tool that both provides a good amount of snap threat but also applying or maintaining one of the many seal debuffs. Holy Shield is an extremely powerful short cooldown ability that considerably increases your block chance and deals damage every time you block an attack while it is active. Greater Blessing of Kings Greater Blessing of Kings is a bit of an unorthodox way to generate threat but is very strong. In a situation where you are tanking a boss you will often find yourself without a spell off cooldown to cast, Greater Blessing of Kings can fill this void, this spell should only really be used as a filler when no other ability is available. Its only major downside being the fact it costs a considerable amount of Mana but if you are tanking a boss the amount of healing you will receive will likely negate the Mana spent on this ability. Avenger’s Shield is a strong burst of threat and damage but it is important to make sure you are not going to get meleed when casting this because you cannot mitigate damage by blocking, dodging or parrying when you are casting a spell.

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Is prot Paladin good for leveling?

Protection Paladin is exceptionally good for leveling. As mentioned, you can do large pulls, solo most of the harder quests, and just be very efficient at killing creatures and doing quests. You can also have very quick queues for dungeons to complete dungeon quests or to change things up and do something different.
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Are Paladins easy to level TBC?

Overview – are not one of the fastest leveling classes in the game largely due to their mob kill speed, but they are extremely durable with their ability to heal, wear gear with plenty of Armor, and a large number of passive abilities that sustain your Mana and health, limiting downtime and making the leveling process extremely steady.
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Can Paladins heal in TBC?

Holy Paladin PvE Viability in TBC Classic – Paladins are capable of filling all three roles in TBC and are competitive at each. All of the specializations will allow you to fill a specific niche because of the plentiful buffs that no other class can offer.

• Holy Paladins are the strongest single-target healer in the game and are essential to any raid’s success, as they are primarily tank healers.
• Holy Paladins’ biggest strength, other than their single-target healing, is their Mana efficiency.
• Their heals are so powerful that it is quite common to downrank your spells as a Holy Paladin, in order to continuously output healing.

They also have a wide array of cooldowns that can come in handy if things do not go according to plan or that can be used pre-emptively to make a difficult part of an encounter considerably easier. If you would like to see where Holy Paladins fall in the overall rankings among healer specs for both PvE and PvP in TBC Classic, we have created pages dedicated to explaining what classes and specializations are the best of the best through multiple factors.
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Can Paladins dual wield TBC?

As Paladins cannot dual-wield in Burning Crusade Classic WoW, you will equip a Shield in your Off-hand if you have a 1H weapon in your Main Hand.
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Can you tank as RET in TBC?

Tanking Dungeons as Retri in TBC I want to play Retribution Paladin in TBC but as being a DPS it would take much time to find a dungeon group. My question is if I bring a tank gear with me would I tank the heroic/normal dungeons in TBC? You’ll be lacking 2 top tier tools for survivability and aggro.

Maybe once ppl overgear the dungeons it might be a chance but while leveling I wouldn’t suggest you to do it, especially for heroics.2 Likes No, this is not a thing, you need to play Prot. That goes for Warriors too, you can’t tank as a Fury/Arms Warrior by equipping gear. You do this as Ret/Arms/Fury and first the group will die from agro, then you will die from being a paper tank.

Maybe if you wanna do some overgeared easy dungeons, or offtank a trash mob in a raid yeah fine, but not tanking heroics or raid bosses.1 Like 1 Like Schmürzeli: With the right team and several tiers of item above the content while taking considerably more time you can due anything, sure. But if you want to tank a dungeon in any normal situation you need to be a tank. Nobody is going to stick around for your fluffy the hunter pet to lose agro to a single chain heal.

You can somewhat tank normal dungeons in a different spec if you have the appropriate gear, but you will have way more problems than running in prot.Depends on the dungeon as well, I wouldn’t be tanking SL or Shaterred Halls on normal in an offspec if I could avoid it.Heroics No.

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Is it faster to level in TBC than classic?

TBC vs Vanilla leveling speed? Tried looking this up but never really found any answers that were satisfying. Was just wondering how the levelling experience was in tbc vs vanilla? I wanted to play classic, but I just couldn’t deal with how low the drop rates for quest items were and was wanting to know if TBC had better drop rates? I know it introduced quest hubs and more quests, but I personally don’t want to put in the time if drop rates for quest items are the same.

• It’s roughly 25-30% faster due to the xp nerf and some better optimization of areas (aka elite zones being made non-elite so you can do more quests for more reward),
• If it took you 6 days /played before expect yourself to get there near 4 days /played.1 Like Is there a difference in drop rates for quest items? That was a huge turn off for me was having to kill ie 25 boars for 8 meat to turn in for a quest.

That’s just a part of the old MMO style (aka Vanilla WoW, TBC, Korean MMOs, etc.) that you’ll have to get used to if you’re going to play TBC. Retail sped up leveling to such ridiculous levels that a lot of people were shocked at how much longer it takes in Classic.

• It sounds like you were among them.
• Unless you’re playing unhealthy levels, I wouldn’t expect to go from 1-70 in just a couple of days.
• At the bare minimum, you’re looking at 100+ hours /played.
• TBC leveling is basically 1/3rd faster than Vanilla, but you’re still going to have those RNG battles with fetch quests.

That being said, it’s widely considered their best expansion (usually tied with Wrath), so it’ll be worth it.1 Like TBC reduces EXP requirements by 30%, between levels 20 and 60 IIRC. There’s also a LOT more quests, like 100+ quests added to vanilla zones, so that you don’t run out of quests to do.

1. Ikato: Is there a difference in drop rates for quest items? No.
2. There’s no such thing as killing “extra” boars.
3. Those drop rates are planned.
4. Just remember, those boars give XP, too.1 Like This.
5. Eep in mind OP, that every boar you kill that doesn’t drop the quest item, still gets you a little bit closer to the next level.

Pre Cataclysm, the majority of leveling xp was not obtained from quests. The real leveling is from mob kills – quests just serve to direct you and give the mob kills purpose. It’s also worth noting that with the increased amount of quests, increased quest xp from 30-60, and the reduced xp to level, you likely will be able to skip a lot of quests that you find annoying.

Quests are just directions, but kills themselves are the bulk of your leveling.Low drop rates can be frustrating, especially in competitive areas for those drops (like the trolls in STV), but it’s only going to be more of the same in BC.As long as you can get in the mindset to just murderhobo everything in the area for EXP, you’ll level swiftly.

Dirtyfurry: just murderhobo everything Yup. Kill every mob as you’re running between quests. Ikato: Tried looking this up but never really found any answers that were satisfying. Was just wondering how the levelling experience was in tbc vs vanilla? I wanted to play classic, but I just couldn’t deal with how low the drop rates for quest items were and was wanting to know if TBC had better drop rates? I know it introduced quest hubs and more quests, but I personally don’t want to put in the time if drop rates for quest items are the same.

1. Its not like leveling with rested exp but its noticeable i think.
2. Like Mini said, I think it’s a lot bigger a change than people realize.
3. In Classic, there is a massive drought of content in the 30-60 range compared to the xp to level.
4. I tend to burn out around level 30ish for that very reason as it just becomes more tedious than it is fun.

I love slow leveling – as long as there is enough content to justify it. In TBC it should be a MUCH more enjoyable experience in that regard, with the increased quest xp, Dustwallow quests, and less xp to level combined. It’s not going to be fast, especially by retail standards.
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Can you tank as Ret spec TBC?

Re: Leveling a retribution paladin and tanking in dungeons – first of all, your health is rather low. I was sitting at 5.5k at around 57, and even then some mobs tend to hit hard (Fireguard Destroyers and such) The reason you seem to take much damage because if a mob hits for let’s say 200, you will see your health drop a lot more than a full prot tank.

Even at 57, there will be a difference between prot and ret. Yes you can tank as a ret, but it requires healers and dps that give you the chance to show that you can do it and keep it all going. Mostly it’s a pug issue. My tank is at 62 at the moment, and just over 8k unbuffed, and still people complain I have to low HP, I take to much damage etc (wearing 90% of the champion gear).

Don’t let the bads get to you, just keep going and you’ll be fine. Although I would suggest getting some more stamina 2010-04-26, 10:42 AM #6 Blademaster
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Which Paladin spec is best TBC?

Spec Choice – Every Paladin spec is useful in its own way and fills a role that is important to a group, but Retribution will be the best by far for solo leveling, while also allowing you to off-heal when needed. If you are going to be leveling with other people, Holy can be a good choice.

Holy Paladins offer some of the strongest single-target healing in the game, regardless of the level, and can spend talent points to make their already extremely powerful blessing spells even stronger. Protection is another option if you are looking to play a tank role. Protection can be played both solo or in a group and is by far the most durable of any Paladin spec.

The ability to pull multiple monsters at once and kill them without much risk of dying is enticing, but the kill speed still ends up being slower than what you would be able to do as Retribution. Prot shines in group content similar to Holy, but allows you to play solo if you decide.4.
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Do prot warriors need hit in TBC?

TBC Protection Warrior Tank Stat Priority and Attributes Guide – Burning Crusade Classic 2.5.1 Welcome to Wowhead’s Protection Warrior Tank Attributes and Stats TBC Guide, updated for of Burning Crusade Classic. In this guide, we will explain what Attributes do for their character, what Secondary Stats are, as well as what things to prioritize for your character when comparing Gear, either while leveling or during The Burning Crusade Classic end game content.

In this guide, we focus purely on Burning Crusade endgame stats. If you’re looking into what stats to focus on while leveling your Protection Warrior, check out our Protection Warrior TBC Leveling Guide for more information. Our Protection Warrior guides are always updated with the latest information from in-game experience, theorycrafting, and logs; make sure to check our changelog to this page, by clicking on View Changelog at the top of the page.

If you are interested in more in-depth Protection Warrior guides for Phase 4, make sure to browse the Navigation Bar below, and our list of Guide Navigation just beneath the Table of Contents, OverviewLeveling (1-70)Starter GuideTalents & BuildsBiS GearRotation & AbilitiesStatsGems & EnchantsBuffs & ConsumablesAddonsMacrosPre-Patch BuildsPvPSurvival1.

• Critical strikes immunity The first goal of any tank is to achieve immunity to critical strikes via a combination of defense rating and resilience rating, for a total reduction of 5.6% critical chances against level 73 raid bosses,
• While defense rating is a good stat overall which provides some avoidance value on top of reducing critical chances against you, resilience rating grants a larger reduction to critical chances per point.

As such, the latter, mostly found on PvP gear, helps achieve critical immunity with fewer total stats and fewer items, which in return opens up a larger choice of items to complete your tank set.2. Survive a worst-case-scenarioYour second goal as a tank is to achieve a combination of health and damage reduction capable of surviving what is called a “worst-case-scenario”.

A worst-case-scenario is a sequence of attacks that would be able to kill you, assuming the boss you are facing lands its most deadly attacks back to back and you avoid none in a realistic window of time for your healers to save you. For example, a very common worst-case-scenario against Magtheridon would be to be hit by a crushing blow (150% damage of a normal attack), because you are caught off-guard when the boss resumes his swing at the end of the channel from the cubes clickers and didn’t have time (or rage) to use Shield Block, following by his Cleave attack.

Both of these attacks deal 150% of his normal swing damage that goes up to 18.000, which means at worst you can be hit for a total of 54.000 unmitigated damage within the span of 2 seconds, not including parry haste. Your survival target to reliably tank Magtheridon and survive the worst then becomes to achieve a total of 54.000 Effective Health Points,

1. E ffective H ealth P oints (EHP) is the total of your maximum health pool, divided by 1 minus your total damage reduction from armor and modifiers such as Defensive Stance (-10% damage).
2. For example, 20.000 HP and 17.000 armor, including raid buffs, grant you 58.70% damage reduction for a total of ~54k EHP with Defensive Stance,

Different bosses hit for a different amount of damage or have different abilities and, as such, your survival target varies all the time. The rule of thumb is to gear with the most challenging encounter in mind, and swap mitigation pieces in favor of threat pieces for encounters where the bar for survival is lower.

• For example, Magtheridon and Prince Malchezaar are notable hard hitters of Phase 1 and you want to gear around them for the success of your raids.
• However, when facing lesser threats such as Moroes or Terestian Illhoof, who hit for a third of Magtheridon’s attacks, you can dial down the survival by a lot because their worst-case-scenario requires half as much EHP.

Threat3. Expertise soft cap (6.50% dodge reduction = 26 Expertise = 103 Expertise rating)4. Hit cap (9% hit chance)Contrary to Classic Vanilla, in TBCC, threat is only second to survival because bosses in the expansion are a lot more dangerous. The sad reality of the Protection Warrior Tank in TBC is that most of our threat comes from innate threat values built in each spell of our toolkit that we can not increase.

Offensive stats will mostly affect our damage output but damage only contributes a minority of our total threat generation. For this reason, the most effective way to increase threat as a Protection Warrior is to guarantee that our abilities hit the target for these built-in threat values to land as reliably as possible.

To achieve this goal, the most important stats are hit and expertise rating, respectively reducing chances to miss and be dodged or parried. Because expertise reduces both chances to be dodged and parried at the same time, up to the soft cap of 26 expertise at which point dodge chances are fully removed, the value of expertise to hit the target more consistently is twice the value of hit rating which only reduces misses.

For a Level 70 Warrior :1 Strength = 2 Attack Power20 Strength = 1 Block Value

Vitality increases your total Strength by 10%.

For a Level 70 Warrior :1 Agility = 2 Armor30 Agility = 1% Dodge33 Agility = 1% Critical Strike Chance

Vitality increases your total Stamina by 5%. Intellect provides nothing for a Warrior,Spirit slightly increases your health regeneration when out of combat by a negligible amount. Hit rating reduces the chance that your attacks miss. Your target hit cap will vary based on your group and raid composition, based on the availability of Heroic Presence and Improved Faerie Fire,

For a Level 70 Warrior :15.7692 hit rating = 1% hit chance

Expertise rating reduces the chance that your attacks are dodged and parried. Expertise works in a very unique way compared to every other ratings. Each point of Expertise skill reduces dodge/parry chance by 0.25% and you need 3.9423 rating for 1 expertise skill.

For a Level 70 Warrior :3.9423 expertise rating = 1 expertise skill1 expertise skill = -0.25% chance to be dodged/parried

Rating	Skill	Reduction	Description
4	1	0.25%	Minimum rating for 1 skill
20	5	1.25%	Racial expertise bonus for Human and Orc
24	6	1.50%	3/3 Defiance
60	15	3.75%	Dodge cap vs.73 with racial and 3/3 Defiance
79	20	5.00%	Dodge cap vs.73 with 3/3 Defiance, hard cap vs.70
103	26	6.50%	Dodge cap vs.73
178	45	11.25%	Parry cap vs.73 with racial and 3/3 Defiance
198	50	12.50%	Parry cap vs.73 with 3/3 Defiance
221	56	14.00%	Parry cap vs.73

ul>For a Level 70 Warrior :2.3654 defense rating = 1 defense skill1 defense skill = 0.04% chance to block, dodge, parry and be missed (0.12% total avoidance)1 defense skill = -0.04% chance to receive a critical strike1 defense skill = -0.04% chance to be dazed25 defense skill = -1% chance to receive a critical strike

For a Level 70 Warrior :18.9230 dodge rating = 1% chance to dodge

For a Level 70 Warrior :23.6538 parry rating = 1% chance to parry

For a Level 70 Warrior :7.8846 shield block rating = 1% chance to block1 shield block value = +1 damage absorbed on a block1 shield block value = +1 damage on Shield Slam

For a Level 70 Warrior :39.4231 resilience rating = -1% chance to receive a critical strike

Gearing as a Protection Warrior Tank is all about balancing your gear between survival and threat based on your target EHP, DTPS and Threat/damage for each encounter. If you want to make the most out of your character, it is important to carry gear alternatives to adapt on the fly between trash mobs, low damage bosses and rage starved scenarios, high damage bosses and rage capped scenarios, high threat requirements or avoidance, etc.

A common misconception from Classic Vanilla is that you have to reach your hit cap at all costs because missing an ability used to be disastrous for your snap threat. While landing your abilities is still very important in TBC obviously, this expansion also introduces Misdirection which is the perfect counter to pull variance.

Plus, the addition of Devastate to your toolkit makes missing your specials less impactful for your TPS overall. Consider hit and expertise rating as bonuses to increase your threat only after you made sure your survival is sufficient for the content.

1. Another misconception, dating from original TBC this time, is that resilience only works in PvP and a Protection Warrior should only wear defense rating up to 490 to achieve crit immunity.
2. The truth is, resilience is a much more effective way to reach your crit immunity with less item budget allocation and fewer pieces than defense.

Plus, the PvP gear itemization Gladiator’s Plate Chestpiece is excellent for a Protection Warrior, packed with armor, stamina, hit and crit ratings which are all essential stats for your EHP and TPS. That is not to say that PvP gear and arenas are mandatory, as there are more than enough items to pick from in raids, but any amount of PvP gear will greatly help reach your desired stats.

Finally, it is important to remember to be a team player. Raiding is a group effort and no one likes a self-centered main tank who gobbles up all the loot based on outdated principles. Some items on the Best In Slot Gear for Protection Warrior Tank List are also part of the BiS sets of your fellow Arms and Fury Warrior s and, as a tank with alternative items, you should try your best not to compete on purely DPS/TPS pieces.

Your whole guild will appreciate the gesture, especially coming out of two years of Classic Vanilla where Fury Prot Tanks bullied every class for their gear. : TBC Protection Warrior Tank Stat Priority and Attributes Guide – Burning Crusade Classic 2.5.1
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Can you DPS as a prot Paladin?

Can I Sim Myself? – Offensively, yes you can. SimulationCraft supports Protection Paladin DPS, and this is the recommended way to determine if an item, trait, or talent is an upgrade for your damage output. As traits are in constant flux, I would maybe not trust it fully at the moment.

• Defensively, no.
• It is not recommended to sim tanks for defense in general.
• There are simply too many factors and variables that go into accurately modelling a tanking situation, and there is no single metric that will tell you “this item or trait will make you more tanky.” For example: something can reduce your overall damage taken, but not improve your ability to survive spike damage, two factors of tanking which will vary in importance depending on the encounter.

You will be much better off following the recommendations of a guide with respect to defensive gearing than you will by following sims.9.
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Is prot Paladin viable in classic?

Introduction – Champions of the light, bring powerful blessings, potent heals, and an array of auras that make them excellent at supporting a raid group. Paladins are also clad in plate armor, making them quite durable and hard to kill in, Perhaps most importantly though, Paladins have a wide array of powerful cooldowns, some of which are considered to be among the most powerful in the game.

Protection Paladins are one of three possible tank specs in WoW Classic, along with and, For raiding, Protection Paladins are far and away considered the worst of all three. Protection Paladins are considered to be not viable in raiding for a number of reasons, most notably because they do not have a taunt ability.

This makes swapping with other tanks on enemies and bosses impossible, which makes them nonviable for many bosses and raids in WoW Classic. Paladins also are the only tank to use Mana, making their spell usage severely limited compared to other tanks since they need to worry about running out of Mana.

While Protection Paladins are not good for raiding, they can be incredibly strong for lesser content, specifically in dungeons. With strong AoE and cooldowns, Protection Paladins can be good for tanking dungeons when they do not need to worry about managing threat with other tanks and need to hold multiple enemies at once.

Protection Paladins are also one of the best power levelers in the game at 60, which can be an incredibly profitable farming method by helping other people level in exchange for gold.2.
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